Soooo many years I have traveled this road to learn about the power of the unseen and how the study of the irrationals and “nothing” means more than anything else. You have done a really fine job of confounding and confusing yourself so far Mike. There is so much misinformation out there it can take a life time just to learn it all before a real study can be undertaken and the tiny bits of truth sifted out for the crucible. But I think one day you will eventually come out the other side once you understand that it is theoretically impossible to explain, understand or package your God or my Spirit in any shape or form. The second you invoke an explanation or attempt to package for sale that which will “never be seen” you effectively destroy it and it in you. I can’t help you with your realizations and enlightenment’s Mike. I can only share where I have been and where I am going. This is done within you not outside of you. Then what is in you explodes into the outer verse and brings it inside you. But we are inherently herd animals and seek shelter in our groups and ideas of things because we feel safety in numbers. You still attempt to tag me. If anything I guess I would identify with the Gnostics and Hindu because they only seek to understand that which they know they cannot understand. But then that is the journey and the joy. It probably would be anti-climactic if we did find the answer. But I strongly object to the word God. It is a man made up term and denotes an understanding and parametrizes things of the physical…which is idiotic. The Egyptians called it “the unspeakable truth whose name shall not be uttered”. In other words there truly is no name and the power is nameless. To attempt to name or understand is human but irrational. Acceptance and realization are the only way to understand the Universal Mind however leaning how to use your powers of acceptance and realization is the key. They are of Spirit… Understanding and logic are of man. Understanding is useless and meaningless and counterproductive if not destructive to true realization and acceptance. With religion you gain an acceptance of what you believe you understand. I think it hard to deal with a power that is “ALL” but asks for nothing because it has no way to ask. There is no death only rebirth over and over in the atoms of the Universe. There is joy in a Nova start because that is where the chemicals of life are born. The star does not die. There is no morality only goodness and truth “the brightest light of the brightest light” as the old boys would say. You can see how words simply are idiotic. When you arrive at the door of realization all the things that you though rational disappear and the irrational take over. That is why I say it is important to study them and the nothing that is Spirit. They lead to the light. Well…enough metaphysical babal…my Spirit loves to tease me all the time making me write crazy things! Love your spirit Mike…it is the same one that I have and is the same in all the Universe…it is one and is all and transcends time and space. Don’t figure to ever figure that one out! LOL… Thanks for taking this out of the chat…you can see why I do not like posting this kind of crazy talk in public. There simply are very few people that will elevate themselves above base level and the prisons they chain themselves in. I write like this all the time but rarely does anyone truly get my meanings. But that does not mean it is not true!
Mike: Man…I thought this was going to be a short note. Sorry. I want to share with you some of my learning. My hope is not to prove anything but to separate study of Spirit away from God and religion. I think that each should be studied apart to get a full range of understanding of each. After a time it is possible to begin putting all the pieces together. You will hear an echo in my words of God and the Bible and you should. They were stolen from the ancient apocryphal prophets and Gnostic whose writings where all but destroyed to protect the new religion and plagiarized writings of converting Spirit to God. The Gnostic learning of self, Spirit and self-governing principals were replaced with God dogma rule and moral law. These did not exist until religion. It takes time to understand the black and white differences. There is no money, power and control in self-government.
I want to share with you some of my theory about government and religion and confidence men. The one area that will never let them down is the human ego. The one thing that each of these promises it is to be all about YOU, to help assist or guide you and make you happy and wealthy! People believe that they are the center of the Universe, supreme in the Universe. That there can be no life other than us. That we are at the center of Gods Universe. That we have power and the right of dominion over all things. So of course we should be the center of attention.
There is only one center in life and organizations…self. Not you or anyone else. You are the target… the bulls eye but not the center of “concerned for you” attention. Concern for your wallet maybe? To think otherwise is dangerous and delusional. Is this bad or evil or amoral? NO. It is just the way life is by intention or not. Do we have the ability to become loving and charitable? Of course. We are in contact and part of the Universal Mind of Spirit where everything good comes from. Man can be anything he wants to be good or bad. We have all that inside of us waiting for us to choose. You (me) are the center of our personal Universe and that is all. Once that is fully contemplated and understood we become helpful to others and understanding of the Universe we live in.
Ego is the key. Once a person begins to not only control his ego but to leave it completely, deceptions become so clear it is like a comedy act. I also found that when I let go of my ego and released myself from the mind control of government and religion, my fears and anger subsided. I no longer have a desire to prove right or wrong because they do not exist. They are tools for control. Those negative man-made emotions were replaced with care, concern and discernment. I feel despair and frustration at times (man-made) but it is off set with hope. I am concerned for those that have been pushed into none belief and anger because they are also turning away from our Spirit nature. Not all…some people are simply working their way back on different paths…as truly we all are. I consider the religious extremely dangerous to life, liberty and freedom.
You are a quandary in that it takes enlightenment to see through the deceptions of government. Few people do (as you know) choosing to believe in delusion of self or government or that God will fix everything. I know one other person like you Dr. Kate, you may know her blog. She is also brilliant in government deception analyzing but stuck on stupid when it comes to organized religion. Whatever it is that you two have found that is assisting you to see through government could/should also be applied to the deceptions of religion. In fact, I believe that insight to be identical to crack all deceptions. You have chosen not to apply it yet to organized religion and man-made Gods.
Carl Sagan: “You cannot talk to a believer because his need to believe means more to him than his need for truth”. I think this hold true for any delusion.
I understand the need to believe and hold on. I held fast to God and religion for the first half of my life. Then I separated God from religion, this was not an easy job. But once I got away from my ego I saw things that allowed me to continue my research and study with a clear and open mind about religion. I now enjoy my religious study more than ever as I uncover the beginnings of man’s Spirit awakening. Ancient man was wise beyond current levels of knowledge and practice of Spirit. The Vedic were way ahead in mathematics and astronomy. You can see the separation from knowledge almost to the day with the invention of religion that attacked all forms of wisdom, knowledge and science. It was an organized and planed theocratic take over. Over 2500 years we have suffered under this horrible rule. Today you and I are at a place where man is beginning to dig his way out of the suffrage’s of this antiquated tyranny. Not from a God…but from religion believers and their handlers.
I was a God apologist and a pretty good one, maybe not as good as you or Dr. Kate. I see the need to protect religion and God in your posts as I did for many years. Of course I cannot say anything with all certainty because I may be living in total delusion or denial. Reality is what we believe it to be and each is every bit as real as the next “reality”.
You may simply file what I have shared with you as yet another guys theory and leave it at that and hopefully remember me with fondness. I just enjoy sharing and expanding the endless power of Spirit in my life. I am sure you don’t call the Republic a Democracy and that is what I am saying. God and Spirit “I BELIEVE” should be studied apart before made into a whole if ever. I believe this because that is what we are…two entities one of flesh and one of Spirit. However it takes realization and acceptance for them to work together. It is a personal choice.